Mercedes ML W164 or how to carry the torch successfully. Even though the W163 has remained a car for the cash-strapped gypsy kings and towing enthusiasts, the Mercedes ML W164 is still a popular car. Is it worth the money instead?
The answer is basically yes. A Mercedes ML W164 is pretty cheap to buy these days, but that’s generally true of premium cars. Yes, with 6-7000 euros you buy a W164, but then you find out that you pay at least 500 euros a year in taxes, most wheels are 17″ inch and the annual maintenance of the car costs somewhere between 1500-2000 euros a year.
Yes, the second-generation ML is a huge step up from the first ML. The ML W164 was no longer designed as the successor to the G Class, nor does it have 7 seats, that’s the job of the monstrous GL. So the ML comes with a unibody unlike the ladder chassis construction of the W163. It comes with either coilover or air suspension, it comes factory equipped with street tires and big wheels, and it comes with lots of technology and lots of luxury. Even though it can still tow 3500 kg (or half of your mom), the ML W164 is no longer a pure blooded workhorse. The ML W164 is more of a family car for the dad that’s too snobby for a Santa Fe, but it also it retains it’s appeal to some shady people, albeit much fewer. Even in 2022, the ML still sees a lot of work as the official car of the shady people who have to get to a job fast.
This question still pops up occasionally on forums, social media, and Mercedes groups. The point is that both are premium cars from Mercedes, both usually come with a 3-litre diesel and both are comparably priced. If you have a wide backhead and short forehead, you’ll probably choose the ML because it can accomodate more swords and victims. If you’re also in the waste management business but you’re not into kidnapping and violence but rather tax collection, then the S Class is more of your spin. On the other hand, the S Class is a much more comfortable car but has a lot more electronics and therefore more reliability issues. The ML on the other hand lets you sit up high in the seat and see the rest(s) of the traffic more easily, but has fewer toys than the S Class. There’s also the fact that the ML comes with standard all-wheel drive, whereas the S Class comes with standard rear-wheel drive but that should only concern you in winter on snow.
Petrol
Diesel
3.0 CDI of 190, 211, 224, 272 horsepower – By far the most common engine found in the Mercedes ML W164 and the most adequate for the german mid-size SUV. It doesn’t necessarily go by the logic “good guy, shame that he breathes”, but it doesn’t go in hand with city driving at all. Like any other 3-liter diesel in essence. Except Mercedes has more trouble than others, because the injector seals will quickly crack at city pressure and make your whole engine toast. A yes, take care of the ML 350 BlueTec version because it has AdBlue installation and even in Mercedes’ courtyard it’s not a technology to be praised. Also, don’t forget the oil cooler issue, of which I have already wrote about.
4.0 CDI of 306 horsepower – I could say I don’t exactly understand why you’d buy a 4.0-liter V8 diesel, but then I remembered there’s a 4.7 V8 petrol. In any case, this engine and the automatic transmission get along as well as eating watermelon and drinking beer. The automatic simply cannot cope with the torque of the 4 litre.
If you want to feel like an 2010 mobster. If you have too much money for a Santa Fe and want a family car. If you don’t believe in safety systems and believe that size matters in the event of an impact, then the Mercedes ML W164 is the perfect car for you. I sat and thought that I’d like an ML W164 too, but as I was thinking that I felt the back of my neck already thickening, my forehead shrinking, and my chest hair falling out. I felt the urge to dress up with silk shirts, 2 sizes too small.
What engines do you recommend? Clearly the 3-litre diesel…some say the 190 horsepower ML280 version is too slow, I say it’s for the kind of person who isn’t in a hurry to get anywhere. But the most balanced remains the 224 horsepower ML350 CDI.
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